and Dr. Artin Massihi, owners of Accelerated Urgent Care, in Bakersfield, California
This briefing posted by 23 ABC News | KERO, on April 22, 2020
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Thank you for coming out to Accelerated, we want to share with you want we have learned here over the last couple of months, and in Kern County, and in California with the testing, what is happening in California, and an ER physician perspective, ... and what we think should be the approach going forward.We want to talk about if staying at home, sheltering in place, isolation in place still makes sense.We both have extensively studied microbiology and biochemistry and immuniology, each of us have studied this for 20 years. And we put everything we see today against that backdrop, and say does this make sense. Are we following science?What is science essentially? It is the study of the natural world through experiement, through observation ... We are testing, doing experiments, to see exactly what is going on.This has caused severe disruption for Accelerated.... Our volumes have dropped significantly.02:00Hospitals are furlowing doctors.In California, we are getting rid of our doctors and nurses.04:5012% of Californians were positive for COVID.The initial models were woefully inadequate. They predicited millions of cases of death, and that is not materializing.05:370.03% chance of dying in state of California of COVID-19. Does that necessitate sheltering in place? Does that necessitate shutting down medical systems? Does that necessitate people being out of work?So that is California.96% of people who get COVID in California recover with almost no significant continuing medical problems. Those are important statistics for California.We didn't know this two months ago.We found 6.5%California found 12%The more you test, the prevalence rate goes up, but the death rate stays the same.10:25We have between 37,000 and 60,000 deaths every year from the flu. No pandemic talk. No shutting down the economy.11:00We dont report all of our flu tests every year, we do thousands of tests every year,. because the flu is ubiquitous.And we have a flu vaccine. How many people get it each year?13:29Cases of COVID in Sweden15:03"Does it necessitate shutdown? Loss of jobs? Destruction of the oil companyFurlowing doctors? That's the question I have for you. And I think the answer is going to be increasingly clear as we move through this data."15:25The effects of COVID-19. The secondary effects. COVID-19 is one aspect of our health sector.What has it caused to have us involved in social isolation. What does it cause, what* Child molestation is increasing at a severe rate.... Family members who are intoxicated, home without a paycheck. These are things that will last a lifetime.From me talking to ER's, my doctors, and doctors across the country.* Spousal Abuse... These will affect them for a lifetime, not a season.* Alcoholism* Anxiety* Depression* Suicide* Education has dropped off* Economy is collapsingI am seeing it in my clinics, we have clincs from from Fresno to San DiegoThese things will affect people for a lifetime, not a season.17:00Now I want to compare flu virus17:00effects we've gone over the statistics17:02now I want to compare flu virus is this17:05significantly different and I just got a17:07little bit of data here so deaths per17:11the CDC 2417:13into 62,000 deaths each year we get17:18about we had about 45 million total17:21cases in 2017 with about 62,000 deaths17:24or a 0.13 chance of death from flu in17:29the United States as you know our other17:31numbers were 0.02 so the lethality of17:36kovat 19 is much less now you've got hot17:39beds of it in New York but again went17:42over the numbers 0.1% chance of death17:45widespread small amount of deaths it's17:48similar to flu as a matter of fact if we17:52follow the science as we've been asked17:53to do I'm following the science this17:56data is generated by the CDC World17:58Health Organization the testing is18:00generated by what we have done here so18:02we are following the science now I want18:06to talk about the immune system dr.18:08Missy he used to teach for immunology we18:10both had years of microbiology18:12biochemistry and biology studies we've18:15made it our life's work to understand18:17this stuff and here I'd like to go over18:19some basic things about how the immune18:21system functions so people have a good18:23understanding the immune system is built18:26by exposure to antigens viruses bacteria18:29when you're a little child crawling on18:31the ground putting stuff in your mouth18:32viruses and bacteria come in you form an18:35antigen antibody complex you form i GG18:38IgM this is how your immune system is18:40built you don't take a small child put18:43them in bubble wrap in a room and say go18:45have a healthy immune system18:46this is immunology microbiology 101 this18:50is not something this is the basis of18:52what we've known for years so what I'm18:58seeing is when you take human beings and19:00you say go into your house clean all19:02your counters Lysol them down you're19:04gonna kill 99% of viruses and bacteria19:06wear a mask don't go outside19:08what does it do to our immune system our19:10immune system is used to touching we19:13share bacteria Staphylococcus19:15streptococcal bacteria viruses we19:17develop an immune response daily to this19:19stuff when you take that away from me my19:22immune system drops as I shelter in19:25place my immune system draws19:27you keep me there for months it drops19:29more and now I'm at home hand-washing19:31vigorously washing the counters worried19:34about things that are indeed what I need19:36to survive let's follow the science19:38this is immunology folks this is19:41microbiology this is what we've combined19:43together we have 40 years of experience19:45in this this is common sense19:48immunology it decreases your immune19:55system you can't build an immune system19:58by if someone has a reduced immune20:00system you you hide them away cuz they20:02can't build the immune system if you20:04have a normal functioning immune system20:05you need interaction that when the child20:08is in a womb you're in this protected20:09environment when you come out you have20:11almost no immune system you develop that20:13through touching your mouth touching20:16your eyes virus bacterial virus bacteria20:18immune response IgG IgM this is how you20:21build a strong immune system of course20:26they are but that's that's from media20:28telling them to I am telling them20:30sheltering in place decreases your20:32immune system and then as what we all20:33come out of shelter in place with a20:35lower immune system and start trading20:36viruses bacteria what do you think is20:38going to happen disease is gonna spike20:40and then you've got disease spike20:42amongst a hospital system with20:44furloughed doctors and nurses this is20:47not the combination we want to set up20:48for a healthy society it doesn't make20:51any sense21:00initially initially maybe that was true21:03but again I'm going through the numbers21:04I'm not saying who's wrong or right I'm21:06going through the science and through21:08the numbers and I like you have been21:10watching media and studying this for two21:12months night and day21:13well I go to bed at 2 or 3 in the21:15morning every day I read after my shift21:17and I say what's going on here I'm not a21:20I'm not in an ivory tower I'm in seeing21:22patients every day and I'm collecting my21:24own data I didn't have data two months21:26ago I just shared my data 6.5 percent of21:29all pages we tested are positive that's21:30actual unfiltered non-political data I'm21:51not seeing again I'm sharing the data21:52I'm not seeing or write somebody the22:04data the data is coming in no I'm saying22:08you have to give the virus time in from22:11December to now there was tons of22:13hypotheses you have to let the data work22:16let the let the virus rise up then we22:20study it and we see did we respond22:22appropriately initially the response22:23fine shut it down but as the data comes22:26across and we say now wait a second22:28we've never ever responded like this in22:31the history of the country why are we22:32doing this now22:36even more accurate and more timely than22:39what we're getting here in Kern County22:42okay well sorry thank thank you for your22:49question I think your question is valid22:50and obviously dr. pouchy is a22:55world-renowned immunologist and a lot of22:58the data that they originally gave us23:00was theoretical23:03because coronavirus is a new virus we've23:06studied corona virus since the 70s23:08corona virus was but if you let me23:24finish so every year according to your23:30argument that you just made every year23:32have you every year when we get the flu23:36it's a new flu virus correct right but23:3999% of it is flu correct the way virus23:43has changed the undergo mutations23:45through their DNA deoxyribonucleic acid23:47there are different types of mutations23:49which either cause increased virulence23:51and more likely decrease virulence23:53meaning virulence meaning how dangerous23:56of viruses so when corona virus was23:59we've been studying corona virus since24:01the 70s and this this this this type of24:05corona virus that came out was first and24:08foremost transmissible through through24:10human beings and that was new and I24:12think anytime you have something new in24:14the medical community I've been a doctor24:16for 26 years any time you you you you24:20have something new in the community24:22medical community it sparks fear and dr.24:26I would have done what dr. Fauci did so24:27we both would have initially because the24:30first thing you do is you want to make24:32sure you limit liability and24:34deaths and I think what they did was24:36brilliant initially but you know looking24:40at theories and models which is what24:43these folks use is very different than24:45the way the actual virus presents itself24:47throughout communities and there's24:49different communities we're talking24:50about here24:51Bakersfield a lot more widespread than24:54Manhattan very very different so you24:56can't really theory and reality are not24:59always the same and that's what dr.25:01Erickson is presenting it's not about25:02being right or wrong medicine what they25:05teach us is you practice medicine I'm25:07learning every day so is dr. Erickson we25:10all learn every day it's not about being25:12right who's right who's wrong it's not a25:14basketball game who made the basket who25:16didn't it's about looking at trends and25:19saying hey we're not seeing what they've25:22been what they've been talking about for25:24the past six to eight weeks we've25:27crippled the economy there's a lot of25:30domestic issues going on is social25:32isolation warranted for the healthy you25:38guys have seen different drawing25:40different conclusions from the same data25:42why is that that's nicer because we're25:45actually seeing the patient's doctor if25:48ouchy hasn't seen a patient for twenty25:49years I'm just saying but I'm just25:51saying it's in general a lot of the25:54figureheads are not it's like the the25:56general contractor versus the sub he's26:00not seeing patients he's in an ivory26:02tower and we have a world of respect for26:04him he's a world-renowned immunologists26:06two different things he's in academic26:07we've dealt with academics all of our26:10life I did surgery at USC and Loma Linda26:12all academics but academics in reality26:15is two different things two different26:17things so we're just presenting our data26:19and our opinion as medical professionals26:22in this community26:27well we don't we haven't I have I have a26:30minute Manhattan for 20 years yeah again26:53as as a leader you listen to the people26:57around you and they make decisions on27:00different timelines and so Gavin Newsom27:03has people around him telling him we27:04think this is the best move for now and27:06then i early on we told people the truth27:09changes every two hours because it was27:11as the data moves as we do our own27:14testing I'm giving a different answer27:16now that I would have month ago because27:17I understand the progression of disease27:19in this area I also understand the27:21progression of disease elsewhere because27:22I look at their data I don't have to27:24live in Manhattan to watch their disease27:26process to watch how many positives in27:29the community and to understand how27:31diseases spread27:32for instance nobody talks about the fact27:35that coronavirus lives on plastics for27:37three days and we're all sheltering in27:39place where'd you get your water bottles27:41from Costco where did you get that27:44plastic shovel from Home Depot those are27:47full mites and carriers of disease so27:49you take your family sheltering and27:50placing you think it's safe and you're27:51taking fomites with disease that they've27:53shown that lasts three days27:54are you really protecting yourself from27:56Kovan does that make sense to you it27:58doesn't make sense to me and if I swab28:01things in your home28:02I would likely find coded 19 and so you28:05think you're protected but you've got28:06phone lights coming from you know Home28:09Depot and Lowe's and it's okay for us to28:13be mingling in those situations well we28:16have to not go to work it's okay for us28:19to go to Costco but not to church do you28:22see the lack of consistency here from28:24from a microbiological immunological28:26standpoint that doesn't make sense if28:28you're gonna isolate people you need to28:31shut these all down because that's how28:32the full mites are being transferred28:33when you go to Del Taco and you get a28:35plastic bag or piece on your burrito28:38from someone not wearing on28:39Aska was just wiping their arm on your28:41thing do you think you're protected from28:44covin when you wear gloves that transfer28:47disease everywhere those gloves have28:48bacteria all over them I'm wearing28:50gloves not helping you as your mask that28:53you're wearing for days you touch the28:55outside of it28:55COBIT and then touch your mouth this28:58doesn't make any sense we wear masks in29:00an acute setting to protect us we're not29:02wearing masks why is that because we29:05understand microbiology we understand29:08immunology and we want strong immune29:10systems I don't want to hide in my home29:12develop a weak immune system and then29:15come out and get disease we have both29:17been in the ER through swine flu and29:19through bird flu did we shut down for29:21those were they much less dangerous than29:25kovat is the flu less dangerous than29:28Kelvin let's look at the death rates no29:30it's not they're similar in prevalence29:33and in death rate so we are saying that29:35our response now now that we know the29:38facts it's time to get back to work it's29:41time to test people but again testing29:44gives you a moment in time testing tells29:46you we the nasal swab says positive or29:49negative the blood vial the tiger top29:52with a finger stick gives you IgG IgM29:54IgG being the long-term aim an29:56immunoglobulin we look at for immunity29:58but again it's a moment in time and when30:01someone what's interesting to me too is30:02when someone dies in this country right30:04now they're not talking about the high30:06blood pressure the diabetes the stroke30:08they say did they die from covet there's30:11as you I we've been to hundreds of30:13autopsies you you don't talk about one30:15thing you talk about Co morbidities30:17their vessels were narrowed their lungs30:20were a smoker Kovan was part of it it is30:24not the reason they died folks it is one30:26of many reasons so to be so simplistic30:29to say that's a Cova death because they30:31have Kobin you know how many people died30:33with pneumonia or people that died from30:35flu with flu I should say it's not from30:38flu they're their lungs were compromised30:41by COPD they had a heart attack two30:44years ago they have a weakened body30:46we aren't pressured to test for flu but30:49ER doctors now my friends at itok to say30:52you know you30:53it's interesting when I'm when I'm30:54writing up my death report I'm being30:56pressured to add covin why is that why31:00are we being pressured to add covin to31:03maybe increase the numbers and make it31:04look a little bit worse than it is I31:06think so so this is what I'm hearing31:08from physicians I talked in Wisconsin31:10New York and everywhere they're they're31:17being pressured to add it to their31:18diagnostic list so well it's I don't I31:25probably come in from the administration31:26so they're your administration is saying31:30it's probably coming from the hospital31:33administration I didn't ask them31:34specifically but they said we're being31:35pressured in house to add koba to the31:38diagnostic list when we think it has31:40nothing to do with the actual cause of31:42death the actual cause of death was not31:46Kovan but it's being reported as one of31:50the disease processes and being added to31:52the death list when they died from COPD31:55they had Kovac Kovac didn't kill them 2531:58years of tobacco use killed32:21is it necessary so my question is is it32:24necessary or are you saying it's only32:26necessary for some individuals to be32:27partying but for helping it's not yeah32:30exactly32:31I mean that's why would you why would32:33you quarantine the healthy if you're32:37young and healthy why would you why32:38would you quarantine yourself it doesn't32:41make any sense32:42you quarantine the ill and when T 5% of33:01patients who have kovat are asymptomatic33:02which is why we advocate for widespread33:05testing in order to open the economy you33:07have to have widespread testing that's33:09number one no question about it but33:11historically if you look at biblical33:14times you look at leprosy Mycobacterium33:17leprae which is the bacteria that causes33:19it they isolated the sick they didn't33:22isolate everybody else so isolating the33:26healthy just doesn't make sense33:28in our opinion I think so well there's33:34two ways to get rid of virus right33:36either burns itself out or herd immunity33:37for hundreds of years we relied on herd33:40immunity viruses kill people end of33:43story33:44the flu kills people Kovach kills people33:46but for the rest of us we develop herd33:48immunity we did we developed the ability33:50to take this virus in and defeat it and33:53for the vast majority 95% of those33:55around the globe this is true and when33:58we look at people that have locked down34:00and people that have been locked down we34:02have massive data it is not34:03statistically significant whether you34:05lock down or not so why are we doing it34:10the lock down yet it would it be safe34:12for people to get outside right now yes34:13I'm outside with no masks are the gloves34:17a mask maybe a little bit too much right34:18now is that kind of what you're saying34:19well again do you do you want your34:22immune system built or do you want it34:24not built the building blocks of your34:27immune system is a virus and bacteria34:29end of story that's how you build it34:31there's normal normal bacteria normal34:34flora there's normal bacteria in normal34:38flora that we have to be exposed to34:40bacteria and viruses that are not34:42virulent are our friends they protect us34:44against bad bacteria and bad viruses so34:47right now if you look at dr. Erikson34:48skin or my skin we have strep we have34:51staff all staff isn't bad call strep34:54isn't bad they protect us against34:57opportunistic infections that's why when34:59a baby comes out of the room for the35:01first three to six months they're35:03extremely vulnerable to opportunistic35:06infection which is why when we see a35:08little baby in the ER with fever that's35:11a one month old you do a spinal tap you35:13do a chest x-ray you do blood cultures35:15you do urine cultures but if you had a35:17fever I wouldn't do that for you why35:19because that baby does not have the35:21normal bacteria and flora from the35:23community whereas it you do because35:25you've interacted with you know you've35:28gone to the gas station you've gone to35:29Home Depot that's the difference normal35:32flora it we all need normal flora dr.35:35Erickson saying is when you are self35:37isolating at home for two or three35:38months you lose that normal flora so if35:41I guarantee when we reopen35:43there's going to be a huge huge amount35:46of illness that's going to be rampant35:48because our immune systems have weakened35:50and that's just basic immunology in35:53biology36:06I had some conclusions but basically our36:11conclusions are that when I look at the36:13the basic tenants that we know of36:15Microbiology and I say do we need to36:18still shelter in place our answer is36:21emphatically no do we need businesses to36:24be shut down emphatically36:26no do we need to have it do we need to36:28test them and get them back to work yes36:31we do the the secondary effects that we36:34went over the child abuse alcoholism36:36loss of revenue all these are in our36:38opinion a significantly more detrimental36:41thing to society than a virus that has36:44proven similar in nature to the seasonal36:48flu we have every year we also need to36:52put measures in place so economic36:54shutdown like this does not happen again36:55we want to make sure we understand that36:58quarantine iing the sick is what we do37:01not quarantine and the healthy we need37:04to make sure if you're gonna if you're37:06gonna dance on someone's constitutional37:08rights you better have a good reason you37:10better have a really good scientific37:12reason and not just theory we're gonna37:16work diligently to find a vaccine and37:18the one of the most important things is37:20wean our hospitals back up we need our37:22furloughed doctors back we need our37:24nurses back as when we lift this thing37:25we're gonna need all hands on deck I37:28know the local hospitals have closed two37:30floors folks that's not the situation37:32you want we're essentially setting37:34ourselves up to have minimal staff and37:37we're going to have significant disease37:38that's the wrong combination so that's37:41that's kind of the gist of what we37:42wanted to get across today and and I've37:45been working with some of the leaders37:46and I've talked to you know the head of37:48the CD pH I've gotten their opinion on37:51this and a lot of the leaders in37:53Sacramento and we're all in agreement37:55but we need to have governor Newsom in37:58agreement with us to lift this ban I've38:01talked to our local head of help the38:04Health Department and he's waiting for38:06that even though they're in agreement38:08with me they're waiting for the powers38:10that be to lift because the data is38:12showing38:13it's time to lift so if we don't lift38:15what is the reason well demand you38:43unless you're gonna grab people from38:44their homes people are afraid they're38:46sheltering in place they don't they're38:49having problems with their diabetes they38:50won't come in do you think they're gonna38:51come in for a test not in your life38:53they're sheltering in homes so a lot of38:55times we've you probably seen our38:57marketing we do coronavirus testing38:59we've called the major businesses you39:01have to have people actually come to39:03perform the test if they're afraid to39:05come in which a lot of people are we39:07can't get the data know the patients but39:30when were they tested I mean that's the39:33most important quit that's the most39:36[Music]39:42interested39:47so I mean if you look at the pending39:49tests within the last 10 days versus the39:52amount of negative and positive cases39:54and counties reporting it seems like it39:57varies maybe 150 to 200 reports coming40:00in today and that large number of just40:03over three thousand three thousand over40:05three thousand five hundred is still40:06there yeah so this idea of let's test40:09everybody even if every single person40:14here there's not a velvety one coffee40:16there's 10.1 billion in LA County so why40:18is current comment as opposed to your no40:25no it's not about a fault this is a40:26discussion we do the majority of testing40:28in Kern County for code we do the40:30majority of testing and our folks we40:33have a couple hundred employees are40:34working night and day to serve this40:36community so we're at full speed we can40:39handle a lot more testing we're seeing40:41about half the volume we normally see we40:43can double our volume and still take40:45care of you know getting the results40:48back unfortunately we don't run them40:51in-house nobody does we depend on major40:53labs that you know huge players in the40:56United States so our job is to evaluate40:58the patient make sure it's a you know41:00they don't have any any other issues41:02tonsillitis pneumonia flu swabbing for41:05kovetz send them to the lab the lag from41:08the time they get it from toe the result41:10is usually two days it's a two-day41:12result which is in line with everywhere41:15else one more time are we've tested 521341:40we've had 340 positives now our people41:44get we have people calling back from41:477:00 in the morning till midnight we can41:48only speak to our data collection41:51initially the labs were taking 10 to 1241:54days to get results that was about 641:56weeks ago41:56then they refine their process they41:58brought in more analyzer so they41:59automate42:00they were doing things manually they42:02automated the process and now it's one42:04two three days all of our data is42:06followed up on these 5213 these are42:09called back we do between 150 and 20042:11tests every single day of the week42:12including weekends we have people42:14calling back till midnight every single42:16patient our data has followed up on I42:19can't speak to what la people are doing42:21I know what we're doing here these tests42:24have been followed up on these tests are42:26accurate to date and we're if you look42:28at the pending tests 5213 is a majority42:31of them so I know our process these I42:34don't42:35maybe the hospitals are not saying them42:36stat I don't know but that's our data is42:39coming around one to three days no based42:44on your information would you say it's42:45safe to open up schools sporting events42:48and for people to gather outside again42:50including James yeah I would start I42:52would start slowly I think we need to42:53open up the schools start getting kids42:56back to the immune system you know and42:57the major events the sporting events42:59these are these are non-essential let's43:00get back to those slowly let's start43:02with schools let's start with cafe Rio43:04and the pizza place here because I can43:07go into Sully's right now which I did43:09this morning there was 25 people in43:10there and I can stand in line for 1043:12minutes but I can't go in Cafe Rio and43:14sit there for 10 minutes does that make43:15sense to you guys and I think I can go43:17into Costco and I can shop with people43:20and there's probably a couple hundred43:21people but I can't go in Cafe Rio so big43:24businesses are open little businesses43:27are not there's no science behind that43:30as we've gone over that is not science43:32there's other factors in play that that43:35we don't have time to go into but it's43:37not science I want to make that clear43:43you think needs to happen or if if43:45someone came to you County is headed43:47what should we do a little bit because43:49you said you need testing an important43:51but are you seeing someone that you're43:53seeing a slow reopening learning with43:56the most essential things and working43:58from there and then how would you44:00propose doing testing well and we've44:05I've met with all the CEOs and all the44:07hospitals as early as yesterday and I've44:10met a couple times and they said what's44:12your capacity we're trying to figure out44:14our capacity so it's an ongoing44:17discussion and from our perspective44:19we've said let's start back opening the44:21businesses up people need revenue they44:24need the food chain for instance your44:27room way your Bolthouse they have44:28thousands of employees well they're all44:30working have they all been tested so our44:34thing is the food start with the food44:36industry and the food chain test them44:38and we're what we're trying to do now is44:40validate a a finger stick test so that44:43we can test people in three minutes44:44they're just coming out so we're44:47actually at noon today we're supposed to44:50meet with a major lab talking about44:51running the tiger top which is the blood44:53tube alongside the finger test doing our44:55self validation over the next week or44:57two44:58getting that rapid test done so that45:00people can test as they go into work45:02boom three minutes negative come and we45:05do that and until we find out who has45:08active disease who's not and we do it we45:10don't have to do everyone but a majority45:12of players and then eventually we treat45:15this like we treat flu which is if you45:18have the flu and you're feeling fever45:20and body aches you just stay home if you45:22have coffee or shortness of breath kovat45:24is more of a respiratory thing you stay45:26home you don't you don't get tested even45:28when people come with flu a lot of times45:30we don't test them we go you have flu45:31here's a medication or if it's been more45:34than two days you don't get Tamiflu it45:35works itself out I this this virus is45:38the same you have kovat go home let it45:42resolve and come back45:46negative they should because they may be45:52negative for the antibody for years they45:55may never get flu we have people in45:57their 50s who have never had flu well if46:12you have no symptoms you should be able46:14to return to work are you an46:17asymptomatic viral shedder46:18maybe but we can't test all of humanity46:20I think one thing I also wanted to add46:22is we're good in this cases sure we're46:25gonna miss cases of coronavirus just46:27like we miss cases of the flu I think46:29one thing that is being televised is46:33that we need to capture every single46:34coronavirus patient no we don't because46:36that's not reality theory and reality46:39are very very different we work in ers46:41for 15 years theory and reality are very46:44different it would be nice to capture46:45every coronavirus patient yes but is46:47that realistic are we gonna keep the46:49economy shut down for two years and46:51vaccinate everybody that's an46:53unrealistic expectation I think so46:56you're gonna cause financial ruin46:57domestic violence suicide rape violence47:01and what are you going to get out of it47:03you're still gonna miss a lot of cases47:04so we need to treat this like the flu47:06which is familiar and eventually this47:09this will mutate and become less and47:11less virulent because a symptom patients47:15who are asymptomatic or silent shedders47:18usually have the the milder version of47:20the corona virus right because it's47:22milder that's why they're not as47:24symptomatic and that tends to spread47:26quicker than the more virulent forms47:33one of them was what sources do you cite47:37about their claims what scientific47:38studies this is too early scientific47:43studies double-blind clinical controlled47:45trials take time years so we're doing47:48the best with the data we have I gave47:50you the statistics this is all common47:52knowledge you can find online this is47:54their countries reporting to these47:56different news entities this is all47:58common knowledge this is not based on48:00double-blind clinical control trials48:01again we've been studying microbiology48:03for twenty years this is our life goal48:06in our 20s and 30s 40s this is what we48:09do we throw this information against the48:12backdrop of knowledge we have both have48:14degrees in this and say is this48:16legitimate I don't need a double-blind48:18clinically controlled trial to tell me48:20if sheltering in place is appropriate48:22that is the that is a college-level48:24understanding of microbiology that's48:25next year next year two years down the48:28line a lot of times in medicine you have48:29to make you have to make educated48:31decisions with the data that you have I48:33can sit up you know in the forties 47th48:36floor in the penthouse and say we should48:38do this this and this but I haven't seen48:40a patient for 20 years that's not48:41realistic we were using the basic data48:45that we have here which we're happy to48:47share with you guys we have all the data48:49this is our data from Kern County and48:51because we're the largest testing center48:53for Kern County we're assuming our data48:55is accurate for this specific area 5,00049:02we've done five thousand two hundred and49:05thirteen that's okay five thousand two49:08hundred and thirteen and we have three49:09hundred and forty fives at three hundred49:10forty six points five percent I think so49:19I mean sorry to cut you off your vitamin49:22D levels go down you're not outside49:23you're not you know your mood goes down49:26when your mood goes down you're more49:27likely to get sick you get depression49:29going outside is healthy I mean why49:32can't you go to the park and walk around49:35but you can go to Home Depot nobody's49:36wearing a mask it just it doesn't make49:38sense the inconsistencies and49:40congruencies make no sense that's the49:43restaurants after stay-at-home order you49:45might see waiters no it's not it's not49:52we don't disagree with that I mean I49:54think you can look at it from two49:55different ways I think if you're healthy49:57and you don't have significant49:59comorbidity comorbidities and you know50:01you're not on you know you're not50:03immunodeficient and you're not elderly50:06you should be able to go out without any50:08gloves and without a mask I think if you50:10are those things you should either set50:12shelter in place or wear a mask and50:14gloves I don't think everybody needs to50:15wear the masks and gloves because it50:17reduces your bacterial flora it doesn't50:21allow you to interact with society and50:22your bacterial flora and your viruses50:24your friends that protect you from other50:27diseases end up going away and now50:29you're more likely to get opportunistic50:31infections infections that are hoping50:33you don't have your good bugs fighting50:35for you if that makes sense50:47the u.s. is below almost every Western50:50European nation for testing - I think50:52the UK implants and release is like50:55nowhere lower than everybody -50:58[Music]51:00I think we're about 12,500 per million51:02you can prance about 8,000 if you look51:05like Germany and Denmark that are51:07beginning to open up there they're51:09testing rates for governor are three51:11times higher than ours are we've also51:13had their test positive rate is between51:163 and 12 percent which is what the World51:18Health Organization so it should be the51:20popular they are closer to 20 percent51:22nationally so what stage do you think we51:24get that adequate testing which you guys51:26are calling for where we can start to51:28take those approaches to get our economy51:30moving and start with me oh well I think51:32you can I think that's an excellent51:35question I think the problem with with51:37wanting widespread testing versus not51:39being scared enough to come to a51:40facility to get white press widespread51:42testing are two different things51:43if you're at home seeing tons and tons51:45of people die I don't want to go to51:47accelerate it I don't want to get51:48testing that fear prevents people from51:51coming in when this this press*
Other related stories:
* Bakersfield doctors dispute the need for stay-at-home order
* Accelerated Urgent Care on COVID-19
Some responses to this briefing:
* Kern County Public Health responding on Thursday 4/22 to the claims of the doctors from Accelerated Urgent Care - “The doctor at Accelerated has spoken with our director. Our director has not concurred with the statements that were made yesterday about the need to re-open at this time," Michelle Corson, Public Information Officer for Kern County Public Health, said.
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"Do we need to shelter in place, and does that make sense from the microbiology we have known for 30 years.... Why people do things at a hospital is not really our area expertise..."
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