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====== Science Communication and Conspiracy Theorists ======


===== Science Communication =====

  * Science Promotion
  * Science Explaining
    * Examples

===== A cautionary Tale =====
Chemtrails
  * The crazy rainbow lady - sprinkling her lawn, sees rainbow, claims it is proof government is putting chemicals in the water - from 2008
    * she made a video about this
    * how do rainbows work?
      * google, get diagrams showing light reflecting in water droplet being refracted - what about the order of the colors - for each angle of light entering, different particular light that is refracted. Each band coming from different drops.
      * Why is light even bending at all?
        * Snell’s law
        * Fermat’s principle - light always takes the path that is the shortest amount of time from one place to another
          * Example of lifeguard - shortest path to get to someone drowning
          * Does this make sense? How does light know
            * Huyens-Fresnel principles - light is lots of waves
            * Why is light slowing down in water?
              * Dr. Don Lincoln - Why does light slow down in water?
                * he says there are a lot of wrong answers on internet. Complicated things over simplified and invents wrong answers
                  * examples:
                    * Atoms absorbing and re-emitting - doesnt explain angles
                  * Correct .... superimposing the waves creates a new wave
                  * Says we have to use Maxwell’s equations. - It doesnt help the average person
                  * New diagram based on Maxwell’s equations.
                  * Then he says there is a real explanation for light slowing down and light splitting into different colors - rate of slow down is different for different wavelengths - real answer is quantum physicists
                    * ”If you think you understand quantum physics, you are lying to yourself”
                    * Richard Feynman, 1983 - Magnets, how do they work?
                      * Journalist asked the question, and Feynman went through different levels
                      * Eventually realized journalized wouldn’t understand, said 
                        * “I’m not going to be able to give an answer, ... except to tell you that they do.”

So do I understand Rainbows?
  * quantum physics? No
  * Maxwlls equations -  a little
  * Huygens principle - sort of
  * * fermats principle - maybe, but I dont like it
  * Snells law - yes
  * Sunlight on raindrops - reasonable

What this Rainbow Experience Taught ME
  * Leonard Tramiel knows more physics than me
  * Most people will never //really// understand rainbows
  * Explaing “Whhy...” is a rabbit hole, dont go too deep and get lost!
  * Focu on “what” and “when”, and not “how” and “why”

==== What to tell the Sprinkler Lady? ====
  * turn out she was paranoid schizophrenic.  She hasn’t posted more videos since 2008
  * Explanations:
    * How a rainbow forms - this is what we know
    * Connect it simply with what she sees in her garden

===== What to tell conspiracy theorists =====
  * tailor to the individual
  * Determine your shared reality, your common ground, basic points of science agreed on
  * What did they miss?
    * They might not have noticed they only happen when the sun is behind you
  * Keep it as simple as possible, but no simpler. Leverage existing knowledge
  * Don’t over-explain
    * Rainbow explanation was a great example illustrating this point. You will lose the discussion
  * **Show, don’t tell**
  * Keep the science at hand, just in case


====== Related Examples ======
===== Chembows =====
Popular in chemtrails program as evidence of things being sprayed in the air 
  * rainless rainbow

Halos and arcs
  * common ground = rainbows need rain
  * missing. = hallows
    * made from ice clouds - needs to be the right kind of crystal
    * contrails are ice clouds
    * around the sun, not opposite
    * happen when facing the sun
  * show them where it fits
    * IT is not something new that needs chemtrails to explain it
  * don’t over-explain
    * get them to observation
    * maybe later you can explain why halos happen

atoptics.co.uk/halo


===== Oily Chembows =====

More swear colors, like oil on pavement

Described as “insane oily” “spill” looking type clouds in the sky

Rainbows three ways
  * refraction
  * diffractions - oil clouds, and 
  * interference - colors on oil on oil slick

Diffraction is not interference (or is it?)

Woodcut from 1500’s
  * sundogs - sideways halos next to the sun
  * drawing of halos and Coronas
  * these things have been seen for thousands of years - Aristotle in his book on meteorology
  * These things have existed for a long time - this effective technique, especially for chem trail people
  * books on clouds and weather - descriptions match what they are seeing and calling contrails.

Show them its not new

showing them it is real, is a part of the journey - its not near

===== Green Flash on Flat Earth =====

notes:Skeptical 2019 Program - San Francisco:science_communication_and_conspiracy_theorists

[[notes:Skeptical 2019 Program - San Francisco:]]


====== Science Communication and Conspiracy Theorists ======


===== Science Communication =====

  * Science Promotion
  * Science Explaining
    * Examples

===== A cautionary Tale =====
Chemtrails
  * The crazy rainbow lady - sprinkling her lawn, sees rainbow, claims it is proof government is putting chemicals in the water - from 2008
    * she made a video about this
    * how do rainbows work?
      * google, get diagrams showing light reflecting in water droplet being refracted - what about the order of the colors - for each angle of light entering, different particular light that is refracted. Each band coming from different drops.
      * Why is light even bending at all?
        * Snell’s law
        * Fermat’s principle - light always takes the path that is the shortest amount of time from one place to another
          * Example of lifeguard - shortest path to get to someone drowning
          * Does this make sense? How does light know
            * Huyens-Fresnel principles - light is lots of waves
            * Why is light slowing down in water?
              * Dr. Don Lincoln - Why does light slow down in water?
                * he says there are a lot of wrong answers on internet. Complicated things over simplified and invents wrong answers
                  * examples:
                    * Atoms absorbing and re-emitting - doesnt explain angles
                  * Correct .... superimposing the waves creates a new wave
                  * Says we have to use Maxwell’s equations. - It doesnt help the average person
                  * New diagram based on Maxwell’s equations.
                  * Then he says there is a real explanation for light slowing down and light splitting into different colors - rate of slow down is different for different wavelengths - real answer is quantum physicists
                    * ”If you think you understand quantum physics, you are lying to yourself”
                    * Richard Feynman, 1983 - Magnets, how do they work?
                      * Journalist asked the question, and Feynman went through different levels
                      * Eventually realized journalized wouldn’t understand, said 
                        * “I’m not going to be able to give an answer, ... except to tell you that they do.”

So do I understand Rainbows?
  * quantum physics? No
  * Maxwlls equations -  a little
  * Huygens principle - sort of
  * * fermats principle - maybe, but I dont like it
  * Snells law - yes
  * Sunlight on raindrops - reasonable

What this Rainbow Experience Taught ME
  * Leonard Tramiel knows more physics than me
  * Most people will never //really// understand rainbows
  * Explaing “Whhy...” is a rabbit hole, dont go too deep and get lost!
  * Focu on “what” and “when”, and not “how” and “why”

==== What to tell the Sprinkler Lady? ====
  * turn out she was paranoid schizophrenic.  She hasn’t posted more videos since 2008
  * Explanations:
    * How a rainbow forms - this is what we know
    * Connect it simply with what she sees in her garden

===== What to tell conspiracy theorists =====
  * tailor to the individual
  * Determine your shared reality, your common ground, basic points of science agreed on
  * What did they miss?
    * They might not have noticed they only happen when the sun is behind you
  * Keep it as simple as possible, but no simpler. Leverage existing knowledge
  * Don’t over-explain
    * Rainbow explanation was a great example illustrating this point. You will lose the discussion
  * **Show, don’t tell**
  * Keep the science at hand, just in case


====== Related Examples ======
===== Chembows =====
Popular in chemtrails program as evidence of things being sprayed in the air 
  * rainless rainbow

Halos and arcs
  * common ground = rainbows need rain
  * missing. = hallows
    * made from ice clouds - needs to be the right kind of crystal
    * contrails are ice clouds
    * around the sun, not opposite
    * happen when facing the sun
  * show them where it fits
    * IT is not something new that needs chemtrails to explain it
  * don’t over-explain
    * get them to observation
    * maybe later you can explain why halos happen

atoptics.co.uk/halo


===== Oily Chembows =====

More swear colors, like oil on pavement

Described as “insane oily” “spill” looking type clouds in the sky

Rainbows three ways
  * refraction
  * diffractions - oil clouds, and 
  * interference - colors on oil on oil slick

Diffraction is not interference (or is it?)

Woodcut from 1500’s
  * sundogs - sideways halos next to the sun
  * drawing of halos and Coronas
  * these things have been seen for thousands of years - Aristotle in his book on meteorology
  * These things have existed for a long time - this effective technique, especially for chem trail people
  * books on clouds and weather - descriptions match what they are seeing and calling contrails.

Show them its not new

showing them it is real, is a part of the journey - its not near

===== Green Flash on Flat Earth =====

Sometimes happens right as the sun is setting. Supposedly a proof of flat earth

Someone explained because light bends down, red is at the top, but in this green is on the top, that is supposed to mean light is bending upwards, to give optical illusion, that earth is flat.

Use prism - black out one side of it.  Fake sun, round globe light.

Nathan Thompson - very hardcore

He took the prism and held it upside down, and made the light bend the other way.
  * Told him “look at the prism it is the key to everything”
  * He admitted it got him thinking - “I will admit you got me thinking about the green flash argument I’ve been using this prism you gave me. I’m going to test it more.
  * Just getting the first step out of the rabbit hole is a victory

===== Biology =====
Covering, physics, biology, chemistry

==== What color is blood ====
  * carmine? Burgundy? Chili red?
  * what about boston marathon bombing 2013
    * several photos had blood on ground
    * it looks candy apple red, as if it is paint - conspiracy theorists say this means it was staged
  * color depends on the oxygen content
    * bright red has high oxygen - arterial
    * dark red - low oxygen - venous
  * Wikipedia article on different colors of blood
  * books on hematology
    * problem is people might not trust scientists
    * deer hunting books talk about colors of blood

==== Newton and 9/11 ====

Conspiracy theorists claim laws of motion were disproved.

Head of architects for 9/11 truth. He thinks he is demonstrating with cardboard boxes - he is over simplifying
  * reality - millions of masses falling apart in a complicated way. Can not be over simplified
  * example - model in garage
    * displace the top, and it falls downward, stripping away the floors, and collapsed the whole building
      * This works with people on the fence, and further along

==== Chemtrails - aluminum + barium + strontium = ? ====
They test for this because they think it is a signature.

Problem is that these are common elements in natures crust.

Examples:
  * sandstone - composed of all kinds of chemicals
  * map of the United States and amounts of aluminum in the rocks
  * difference between aluminum in compounds, and in metals
  * what is different between elements and compounds?  Very confusing explanations on the internet. Very confusing.

What are elements, substances, molecules
  * the average person doesnt understand these things

Trying to make simplest explanation possible
  * aluminum as metal, as rock, as atoms tested
  * Abundance of elements in earths crust

  * Al + Ba + Sr - very common in fireworks

Not practical to teach conspiracy theorists in short time.   Show dont tell.

===== Summary =====
  * science education is idea
  * but not always practical in sound bite
  * eseciall for conspiracy theorists
  * show, dont tell
  * explain what and when, not how and why
  * but keep the science close, use as much as possible
  * it does work (in my experience)
  * thank you!
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